1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:02,919 Good morning. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:11,910 [Applause] Yeah. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,439 So, these people have been here since 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,359 Tuesday. They must have thought they 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,479 must have thought it was a different 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,159 mark. Just kidding. Kidding. Kidding. Kidding. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,319 Just kidding. Kidding. Kidding. Kidding. I love him. They were Jean Shepherd 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,599 earlier. 10:34. 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,399 So, stop. Uh, so I Sorry. I went uh 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,479 outside of my normal all black because I 11 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:34,479 was in New York with Jen and Tom this 12 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:37,839 last week and Tom has this in white and 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,078 we end up going to a shoe store in New 14 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:43,759 York and they had the same sweater. So 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,359 he's like I'm going to start sweating. So I'm 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,279 like I'm going to start sweating. So I'm going to be like 40 lbs by the end of 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,359 this uh talk. That's that's how you do 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,759 this. This is true acting sportsmanship, 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,439 right? You got to make sure like I'm I'm 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,878 cutting weight while talking to you. 21 00:00:56,879 --> 00:00:59,358 Like it's a whole plan. genius. That's 22 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:01,279 what I want. I need to be like that. Um, 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,558 guys, thank you'all for joining us 24 00:01:02,559 --> 00:01:04,158 today. Uh, you have been literally 25 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:05,359 anywhere in the world. So, we're super 26 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,750 glad that you're here with 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,599 us. You guys are part of this teeny tiny 28 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,519 little event show called Supernatural. I 29 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,350 don't know if they've heard of 30 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,719 it. Little little little small type 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,239 thing. And actually, uh, where's Silver 32 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,319 at? Where's my friend Silver? There's 33 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:26,399 Silver. Um, we were talking earlier and 34 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,919 I totally had this question lined up. So 35 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,399 it was perfect locked in. Uh plot is 36 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,559 what happens in the story, right? I 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,478 think so. But the story is really built 38 00:01:34,479 --> 00:01:38,158 on emotion. So for you guys, from your 39 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:41,279 perspective, what is supernatural about? 40 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,839 Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's right. You 41 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,839 started making fun of Mark. You started 42 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,279 making fun of Mark. I had to go high. I 43 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,438 had to go high. That's what we did. Uh 44 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:51,039 God, that's a great question. Thank you, 45 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,319 Silver. you, man. 46 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,559 You couldn't wait till like 400 p.m. N 47 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,438 love you. love you. Uh for me, 48 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:01,839 Supernatural was obviously over 327 49 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,158 episodes about a lot of things. Uh I 50 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:06,639 think the through line um and this I've 51 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,839 taken with me personally as Garrett is 52 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,559 happens. Life doesn't go the way 53 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,639 happens. Life doesn't go the way you think it will. Yeah, you're laughing 54 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:16,958 too. Yeah. Yeah. We've all learned that 55 00:02:16,959 --> 00:02:20,399 the hard way. But uh I get by with a 56 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,839 little help from my friends and uh 57 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,878 Yeah. and your SPN family, our Espan 58 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,559 family. And so it's kind of about I've said this 59 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,999 And so it's kind of about I've said this before about different things, but it's 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,719 about keeping fighting until you finally 61 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,359 understand what you're fighting for. Uh 62 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,839 and and taking note along the way. So, 63 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,799 you know, Sam and Dean and him Crowley, 64 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,359 uh, all of 65 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,559 [Music] us, all of us, Charlie, everybody, 66 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,999 us, all of us, Charlie, everybody, Rowena, we're were searching for 67 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,719 something until the meeting, uh, 68 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,439 revealed itself. There's a great book uh 69 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,919 that I love. Uh, everybody lives two 70 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,279 lives. The more important one doesn't 71 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,958 start until you realize you only live 72 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:10,479 one. Wow. So, I stole that, but thank 73 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,958 you. I'll tell you, man. Listen, listen. 74 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,479 Peace. It's Sunday morning. That was church. I 75 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,479 It's Sunday morning. That was church. I needed that one. That was That was good. 76 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,839 Yes. Mark from Crowley's point of view. 77 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,470 It's the endless search for 78 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,719 lunch. It's going to eat. I love that. 79 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,039 It's, you know what it is? I thinking 80 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,479 about it, it's a great question, but I 81 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,479 think it has a lot to do with fear and 82 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,639 the dissipation of fear and facing fear. 83 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,439 And I think the struggles that we have 84 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,318 because the opposite of fear is love. 85 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:49,839 And I think the themes opposite of love 86 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,919 is not hate but the opposite opposite of 87 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,518 love is fear. So these people are put 88 00:03:55,519 --> 00:03:58,158 into fierce circumstances you know fear 89 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:01,598 of family losing you know the changing 90 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:03,438 circumstances of all these characters 91 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:05,438 incredible characters over the years. 92 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:07,919 And a lot of the motivation is fear. And 93 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,359 it's conquering those fears and 94 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,318 discovering that love is the answer. I 95 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:13,739 love that. 96 00:04:16,479 --> 00:04:21,909 [Music] By the way, here you go. 97 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:24,159 I think we all understood that. You know 98 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,478 what's funny is is last night uh Cliff 99 00:04:26,479 --> 00:04:29,359 and I uh had dinner with our buddy Jim 100 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,239 Neos who was a producer on some casual 101 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,599 and Phil Sigrea who was a producer EP 102 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,679 director uh did Yellow Fever did an 103 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,079 episode called Sacrifice 104 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,279 um and he's directing me Jensen Misha in 105 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:50,359 the boys I 106 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,839 boys I get I don't know just went way up I 107 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:55,279 don't know yet. I don't know yet. It's 108 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:58,079 not in the script. But that's why 109 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,758 But that that's why I'm weight cutting. 110 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:01,439 Yeah. That's why I'm like water 111 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,239 depleting. Genius. But uh we talked 112 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,198 about uh because Phil directed uh the 113 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:10,399 season finale of season 8. Uh where he 114 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,478 and I are there and finishing the trials 115 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:15,198 and it's one of my fondest memories of 116 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:17,359 shooting the show over 15 years. And 117 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,319 this dude was a faking gangster uh 118 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,159 badass. He's chained up and I don't know 119 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,959 if he's in the BDSM or something, but 120 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,959 they were like, "Hey Markley, for God's 121 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,790 sake, that's just Wednesday." 122 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,839 The the um the helpers were all like, 123 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:35,999 "Hey, Mark, we can we can untie you." 124 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,359 He's like, "No, I'm good. I'll stay 125 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,599 here." So, uh it all it all worked out. 126 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,559 Um and go where I was just going to go. 127 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,799 Uh but yeah, it's it's a it's a a 128 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,879 moment, a three-day moment. 129 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,719 It's the most it's the most codifying 130 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,159 thing of the whole series for me because 131 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,679 when you work with a with a group of 132 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,279 people day in day out there's never 133 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:59,279 enough time there's never enough money 134 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:00,959 there. I mean, you're trying to make the 135 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,599 best thing you can make and everybody is 136 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,318 working at their at their best, at their 137 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:09,359 top to try to just get this story out, 138 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,439 right? This is what we're trying to do. 139 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,359 And and normally when you shoot a 140 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,679 television show, you know, you shoot the 141 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,079 beginning on a 142 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,318 Wednesday, the end on the Tuesday, but 143 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:22,159 um something else happens on the 144 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,999 Thursday and has no relationship to it 145 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,239 because it's based on where you need to 146 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,799 shoot more than 147 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,439 why you need to shoot. And the the whole 148 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,879 end of of the season 8 finale is very 149 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,198 particular. It's in order and and Phil 150 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:39,719 made a decision to shoot that entire 151 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,079 section sequentially one after the 152 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,758 other. Absolutely. Which is very rare 153 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:45,839 for us. Like it's a very rare thing. So 154 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,159 we got to build something and we got to 155 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,679 work in something. And the most 156 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,959 beautiful thing of that, the most 157 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,079 cathartic thing was every member of the 158 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,679 crew, every person that we work with was 159 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,918 supporting that because it was hard 160 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:02,879 work. It was dark work and it meant 161 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,318 something to the story too. It meant 162 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:05,679 something to the plot as you originally 163 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,638 say. It's a very sort of pivotal time in 164 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:12,478 in the supernatural story. And uh what 165 00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:14,079 was magic was it's like you know they 166 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,559 have to do stuff between action and cut 167 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,598 you know be quiet and but after cuts 168 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:21,198 they have to move stuff they have to do 169 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:24,478 things they were silent for two days not 170 00:07:24,479 --> 00:07:26,559 a sound out of them for two days cuz we 171 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,478 were doing big stuff and for me that 172 00:07:29,479 --> 00:07:34,239 showed me just who they were which is my I mean 173 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,999 me just who they were which is my I mean we do what we do and we love what we do 174 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,239 and we get serious and we we also mess 175 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,478 about but we get serious and it's hard 176 00:07:40,479 --> 00:07:43,359 work, but to have every single person 177 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,758 going, "No, we're here for you. This is 178 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:47,198 what we're going to do. We're going to 179 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:48,879 we're going to give you a safe space to 180 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,559 play in, and let's see how far we can 181 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,839 take this." Amen. 182 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,390 [Music] 183 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,399 I think you can comfortably say that 184 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,239 Supernatural has created an obsession 185 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,469 amongst its fans. Yes. 186 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:07,519 You know, man, what you It's a It's a 187 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,478 weird thing because it's like the word 188 00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:13,439 fan is fanatic, right? It's not a good 189 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,038 word. Well, George Santana quote is a 190 00:08:17,039 --> 00:08:19,439 fanatic is one who redoubles his efforts 191 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,399 when he's lost sight of his aim. 192 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,399 And that's not what the supernatural 193 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,230 family. It's too early for your British 194 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,478 as a as a Mexican American skeptic 195 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:36,158 philosopher. But I'll go slowly, don't worry. Please. 196 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:37,999 But I'll go slowly, don't worry. Please. But the tr that's the truth of this. 197 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,999 It's like we were trying to find we were 198 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,239 trying to find a a collective name. And 199 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,158 this was going on for years. And the 200 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:45,999 reason why we settled on Supernatural 201 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,518 Family is primarily, I think, please 202 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,999 correct me if I'm wrong, is that is that 203 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,278 it's the way you guys treat each other 204 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:57,679 more than anything else. True. We have 205 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:59,838 causes, we have gifts, we believe in. 206 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:01,838 And you guys can come in and just make 207 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:04,239 this a million times bigger and make it 208 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,479 a million times stronger. I mean, the 209 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,999 greatest place to ever have a panic 210 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,919 attack in your entire life is at a 211 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,079 supernatural convention. 212 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,958 Cuz you got 150 people. 150 people like, 213 00:09:14,959 --> 00:09:17,199 "We got you. We got you." And then 214 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,039 somebody will go, "Everybody stand 215 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,079 back." I'm going to translate that into 216 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,110 American. We love y'all. Yeah. 217 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,679 But that's the nature of obsession, the 218 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:33,999 nature of fantasism is a derisory term 219 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,999 created by people who don't understand 220 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,278 what it is to truly love something and 221 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:41,278 truly get something from and it's it's 222 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:42,479 kind of an outside jealousy. You're 223 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,999 right. Absolutely right. And they're 224 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,479 going, "Oh, fans. Oh, you know, I mean, 225 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,879 we might as well all be furries and, you 226 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,319 know, all 501 227 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,799 501 BDSM. 228 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,799 Yes. Well, my BDSM stories. Um, but but 229 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,239 this it's a 230 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,679 really it's a really big deal for me. 231 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,999 It's a really big deal. The way you guys 232 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,559 treat each other is akin to a family, to 233 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,879 an open family with open arms to welcome 234 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,958 people in. to to call that fanaticism or 235 00:10:14,959 --> 00:10:18,958 obsession, sorry, is I think derisory. I 236 00:10:18,959 --> 00:10:20,879 think the truth is nobody ever saw 237 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,799 anything quite like this. That's 238 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,278 amazing. There are a few crazy uncles 239 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:28,999 and we love Twitter X, whatever it's 240 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,958 called. There are a few angry people, 241 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:35,039 but no, uh I I do to to to use obsession 242 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,159 not as derisory or as a pjorative. Um, 243 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,239 I'm obsessed with a lot of things. 244 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,919 Sports teams and and bands of course 245 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,679 places. What are some of your passions? 246 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:47,278 That's what we'll call I was going to 247 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:49,599 say it's it's about passion and love, 248 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,078 not not not obsession and something that 249 00:10:52,079 --> 00:10:53,599 you could denote to something being 250 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,319 wrong with it. Yeah. But if it's wrong, 251 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,439 I don't want to be right. How about 252 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,710 that? 253 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,319 Yeah. Are there any shows that you guys 254 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,239 feel that passionate about that you've 255 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,239 experienced or just like watched and 256 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,958 been a fan of uh that we can now join in 257 00:11:08,959 --> 00:11:16,958 the family watching? Bluey. Blue. 258 00:11:16,959 --> 00:11:20,719 Bluey. Blue. That's uh uh yeah, I think the majority 259 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,119 of my my last 12 years have been 260 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,359 watching whatever the kids watch. But I 261 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,278 certainly remember, and I'm gonna say 262 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:28,319 this, I think I might have said 263 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,359 something to Jason one time, but I think 264 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,039 one of the reasons I wanted to become an 265 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,199 actor was because of home improvement. 266 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,159 Let's go. I'm not even kidding. All the 267 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,719 girls had like Jonathan Taylor Thomas 268 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,319 folders and stuff. They're like, "He's 269 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,239 so cute. JT." I was like, "Well, I'm 270 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,799 JT." You kind of have the hair right now. I 271 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,479 You kind of have the hair right now. I know. I have the hair then, though. 272 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,398 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now I have the hair. I 273 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:54,239 don't know what's going on. Maybe 274 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,439 they'll cut it for the boys or 275 00:11:57,839 --> 00:11:59,398 something. It's not my 276 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:02,479 It's not my choice. Give me a break for the money. 277 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,319 For the money, y'all. You get to donate 278 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:10,310 the hair. Like that's Yeah. 279 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:27,829 I can get a longer wig. Especially Misha. 280 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:31,590 And then he 281 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,958 imagine here we go. Uh so Ricky is big 282 00:12:34,959 --> 00:12:36,879 with music in terms of storytelling as 283 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,799 well and obviously it played a big part 284 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,479 in some of the storytelling flow of 285 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,159 Supernatural. Was that stuff that they 286 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,398 told you during the production or was it 287 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:46,398 all post that the music really kind of 288 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:48,799 took shape? They all are. I mean, Phil's 289 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,359 a massive music fan. Bob's a massive 290 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,999 music fan, but their genres all sort of 291 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,439 collide into classic rock. It's an era 292 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,359 that supports the music that they love, 293 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,159 and they went to that. Yeah. And I'll 294 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,119 say this as well, and this is maybe 295 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,319 boring, how the sausage was made kind of 296 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,439 thing, but there would be in scripts, 297 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,719 uh, you know, Q Stairway to Heaven, but 298 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,559 Stairway to Heaven costs half a million 299 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:17,518 dollars. So it' be like, well, how about 300 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:19,638 Mark Shepard singing 301 00:13:19,639 --> 00:13:23,359 uh but uh so the the one of the one of 302 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,518 the through lines uh from the get was 303 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:27,999 the best block. Uh and Cookie famously 304 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,679 tells a story about he was trying to 305 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:31,919 figure out like he's on a car guy. So he 306 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,439 called his buddy who's a car guy. Yep. 307 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,278 He's like, "Hey, uh what should the boys 308 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:37,679 drive?" He's like, "Impala, put a dead 309 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:39,159 body in the 310 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,759 trunk." Literally. And so there were 311 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,679 things along the way that you know, one 312 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:45,439 of the wonderful things terrible things 313 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,838 about shooting TV, you know, is you have 314 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:49,919 a budget, you know, and so there were 315 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,278 many times and thank God Kansas was up 316 00:13:53,279 --> 00:13:56,949 to play 317 00:13:56,959 --> 00:13:59,278 because they they were also too 318 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:00,958 expensive for us to afford them, but 319 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:02,719 they were like, "Hell yeah, use it. 320 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,958 Carry on." That's awesome. Yeah. 321 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:09,518 Was there a particular scene that used a 322 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:11,278 particular song that was one of your 323 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:13,679 favorites? Yes. Talk to me. Tell me what 324 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,638 it is. Uh I forget the episode. Fight 325 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:21,110 the fairies. David Bowie. 326 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,759 Great song. Uh Sticks Renegade. Yeah. 327 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,159 When When Julia When Julian When death 328 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,039 appears? Oh my god. There's a shot. 329 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,518 Remember remember Tim? Remember Tim the 330 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,359 steady cam operator? Well, you there's 331 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,439 two shots. There were two wer shots that 332 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,999 were done on steam that come off the 333 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,559 1959 uh Cadillac bubble back the death 334 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,559 was driving and you know what his 335 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,078 license plate was cuz in the first shot 336 00:14:48,079 --> 00:14:49,518 they came off the license plate which is 337 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:50,799 the greatest license plate I've ever 338 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:56,239 seen. Phil screener. Yeah. Bu uh uh we 339 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,518 all know he doesn't know. 340 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:01,479 Bye. Bye-bye. 341 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,159 Wow. That was Death's car. My favorite 342 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,518 when he bumps into the car goes down 343 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:12,159 where we're we're shooting um the the 344 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,198 the back the back for Chicago, 345 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:19,359 which was mindblowing to me. It's it's 346 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,559 literally giant fans and fake L train 347 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,159 pillars. Like walking into the wind. It's It was 348 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,479 Like walking into the wind. It's It was so cool, man. I was like, "This show is 349 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,119 really cool." 350 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,999 Carry on for sure. And for those who 351 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,679 haven't seen the series, I'm not going 352 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,159 to ruin it, but the the ac cappella 353 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,879 carry on and 354 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,078 that gets me every time. I'm like, 355 00:15:44,079 --> 00:15:47,039 a 356 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,799 I was there and I started crying. No, 357 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,879 that's fair. That's fair. 358 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,439 um with a show that has run as long as 359 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,319 it did and has as much of a range. There 360 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,679 are a lot of things that change from 361 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,198 concept to execution and I wonder how 362 00:16:01,199 --> 00:16:03,119 you guys would feel if some of these 363 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,958 things did stay in place. Uh one that I 364 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:06,638 read about was uh your girlfriend 365 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:08,638 Jessica being a demon as opposed to 366 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:10,319 being killed. How do you think that 367 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,398 would have changed things? Or Dean being 368 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:15,319 a serial killer. How would that 369 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,679 You mean you eat a lot of cereal, dude. 370 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,758 You can you can tally up the uh beings 371 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:23,919 he's killed. I think qualify. I think I 372 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,159 qualified. He didn't qualify for sure. 373 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,319 Um there were so many things. Uh I'll 374 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,799 use this as for instance. Um we had an 375 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,039 actress in season 4 who was supposed to 376 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,198 be in three episodes. Uh she's now 377 00:16:35,199 --> 00:16:39,670 watching my children 378 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,278 and along the way. And that's how TV 379 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:43,758 goes often is, you know, the first 380 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:45,758 couple episodes are written. We have an 381 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:47,679 idea of how the season's going to go and 382 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,679 then maybe I think you were supposed to 383 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,439 do one episode or something, you know. 384 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,439 Jesus, they're living a happier life for 385 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,278 me. But wow. Wow. 386 00:16:57,279 --> 00:16:59,679 Guys, I'm totally 387 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,518 with love. But I think along the way, 388 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:05,198 the writers and great writers, um, to 389 00:17:05,199 --> 00:17:06,879 their credit, they watch what's going on 390 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,078 and they're like, "Wait, these people 391 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,879 have chemistry. This person fits. Let's 392 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,879 bring them back in." Um, same with 393 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,318 Felicia Day. like I can put on the list. 394 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:19,119 That is amazing. Uh yeah. So I think 395 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:22,078 along along the list it's it's a I don't 396 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,078 envy writers, especially television 397 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:25,999 writers, because their body moving the 398 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,678 entire time. It's like they're driving 399 00:17:27,679 --> 00:17:30,159 an F1 car or something. Okay, now we're 400 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,839 okay. Well, that's actually Let's go 401 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,678 here. Let's go here. Um and so I we 402 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:37,279 don't have enough time in our life to 403 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,719 talk about everything that changed along 404 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,839 the way. For the better and for the 405 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,719 worse. Um, not for the worst, for the 406 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,959 better. And just the best. There's the 407 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,798 best. Remember the best. There's there's 408 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:49,439 a weird thing about like because crippy, 409 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,759 right? Crippy was like five seasons at 410 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,999 the beginning, middle, and end, right? 411 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,079 And then Sarah came in and had to 412 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,279 resteer a ship that was supposedly, you 413 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,239 know, done into a place where you could 414 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,839 continue, which I think is the hardest 415 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,879 thing ever had to do. And season 6, I 416 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,879 love. You got the most amazing episodes 417 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,359 in season six, which is really, it's 418 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:12,879 strange to go, well, actually, it was 419 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,399 supposed to end in an apocalypse at the 420 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,879 end of five. How do you how do you keep 421 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,719 going and make it worthy of of the 422 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,599 characters and the story? And I think we 423 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,678 she did an amazing job doing that. Six. 424 00:18:23,679 --> 00:18:26,479 Seven. I think seven was was the 425 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,519 greatest season 12 426 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,038 that should have been done in season 12 427 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:32,719 because it was very serialized. It was a 428 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,439 very it was a through line of you know 429 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,678 dick basically Roman. Yeah. And uh it 430 00:18:39,679 --> 00:18:41,999 was just it was continuous but and then 431 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,239 Jeremy came back and went angels and 432 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,879 demons dude. That was it. So there is 433 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,479 this fact there is this underlying thing 434 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,279 of not only changes in our characters 435 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,759 but the writers genuinely trying to find 436 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,759 a genuine storyline a real thing that we 437 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,918 want to go down this path. I didn't know 438 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,279 whether Crowley uh was an angel or not. I'm 439 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,918 Crowley uh was an angel or not. I'm being serious cuz I had a long 440 00:19:07,919 --> 00:19:10,639 conversation early on. I go, "Look, 441 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,159 please don't do demon 442 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,359 eyes." And this this is a little 443 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,279 conspiracy we had for a long time and we 444 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,639 had no demon eyes on me for years. 445 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,798 Uh to the point fascinating and I was 446 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:25,119 like because it's I could be anything. 447 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:27,359 It doesn't matter. Mhm. Crowley's 448 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:28,959 Crowley, but it doesn't matter what 449 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,038 Crowley is, but if you need to move him 450 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:35,279 in in our supernatural verse, it's 451 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,999 possible. And then Jeremy K goes, "Dude, 452 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,558 you're getting you're getting demon 453 00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:42,959 eyes." I like, "Okay." I said, "But 454 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,879 you're getting very good demon eyes." 455 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,239 And so I get the red eyes. Yeah, you get 456 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,519 the red eyes. You get smoke if you Okay, 457 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,359 I'll take that. That could be something. 458 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:52,959 But those are the the beautiful 459 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,558 pressures through things that we do. 460 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:56,159 Week to week, day to day, story to 461 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,359 story, things change. But the evolution 462 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:02,239 over series is what is fantastic. And 463 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,159 watching these guys 464 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,759 um where the brother the brother's story 465 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,918 changes. It's not the same thing over 466 00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:11,918 and over again. It's this push and pull 467 00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:15,038 and who's going where and it's it's it's 468 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:17,279 it was handled I think so carefully that 469 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,119 that's why we like it. Absolutely. And 470 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,959 here's a funny thing also, a funny, 471 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,399 maybe some of y'all heard this, maybe 472 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,759 some not. Uh, Krikey told me one time, I 473 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,759 think season 4, he did an interview with 474 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,639 Ent Weekly, and we were just picked up 475 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,959 for season 4 about to start filming and 476 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,519 he mentioned like in passing and he's 477 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,959 hilarious, but he's like, "Yeah, you 478 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,399 know, I've just always had this vision 479 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,798 of a fiveyear show and this and that." 480 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:42,959 Um, because he was thinking like, "I 481 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,399 want to get picked up for season five, 482 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,399 right?" uh he got called by Warner 483 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,918 Brothers and they were like, "Shut the 484 00:20:47,919 --> 00:20:49,918 up." 485 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:51,759 up." Well, we'll decide it for those five or 486 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,158 10 or 15. So, he was like, "Shit, I'll 487 00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:56,639 just do like hint that I want another 488 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,279 date, not say this is it." But, um yeah, 489 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,359 when Sarah came in, I remember uh 490 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,959 between season five and six, I was in LA 491 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,639 for some reason, and I went to the 492 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,319 writer's room, right? And Sarah was now 493 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,079 the showrunner. I brought like a bottle 494 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,479 of pure noir or whatever. And I sit down 495 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,319 and I'm like, "Hey, so Sam's kind of 496 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,798 moose, kind of in hell with his brother. 497 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:18,239 Um, what are we thinking for season 498 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,199 six?" And she goes, "Get this. So you're 499 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,239 going to come back. You're going to come 500 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,038 back soulless." Yeah. I was like, I 501 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:28,319 don't know what that means. 502 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,959 So luckily I had fortunately I had some 503 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,599 couple of weeks a couple months to to 504 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,149 work on that characterization. 505 00:21:38,159 --> 00:21:40,399 It's a it's a hell of a thing to steal a 506 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,079 that has so much opinion behind it. 507 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,079 that has so much opinion behind it. Yes, we can never make everybody happy, 508 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,529 but if we if we can, 509 00:21:52,370 --> 00:21:54,079 [Music] [Applause] 510 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,319 [Applause] but but it's a it's a very 511 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,879 um it's a very poignant thing. It's it's 512 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,119 the way that every single person worked 513 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:06,158 on that show who cared about that show. 514 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:09,199 It shows it shows in the product because 515 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,519 we're not just, oh, let's just do this, 516 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,959 let's just do that. It's about trying to 517 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,119 find the magic and keep the magic and 518 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,798 drive the magic forwards which I think 519 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:18,639 is fantastic. I love that. I love it. 520 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,279 Now to that end, as actors uh having 521 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,199 this great experience with this show and 522 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,959 all the production behind it, what do 523 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,199 you take away as kind of like your 524 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,199 benchmarks now? You've experienced 525 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,279 something so phenomenal. Is that kind of 526 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,599 a bar for you? Any product that you take 527 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,199 on now has to kind of match that? You 528 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,639 know what's funny is my son asked me 529 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,239 that question was last week. He called 530 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,759 me and he told me to ask you again. He 531 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,439 didn't like your answer. Yeah. 532 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,519 So, uh um no, you know what's funny is 533 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,519 that much to one of the earlier 534 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,839 questions answers about keep fighting 535 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,959 until you realize what you're fighting 536 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,279 for. I don't ever remember in the 15 537 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,918 years in Vancouver doing so thinking 538 00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:00,798 like, yeah, real I just woke up, 539 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,359 did what the day were, and went to bed, 540 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:04,959 you know? So, I think there's another 541 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,879 saying I heard, and success is a weird 542 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,798 word, but like success is what happens 543 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:10,798 when you don't realize it. Like I don't 544 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:12,079 go back and think of like, oh yeah, I 545 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,999 remember making like a for a long time. 546 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,119 And kudos to y'all and to our SP family 547 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,759 entirely. We were a bubble show. Like I 548 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,599 said, season 4. It was like, yeah, we 549 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,599 just made season five thinking like, 550 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,158 I hope we go see, right? And so 551 00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:27,439 I hope we go see, right? And so that didn't happen for a long time. And 552 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,038 we were in Vancouver. We weren't in LA 553 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:30,319 like going to their red carpets and 554 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,719 parties and stuff. Um, and so we would 555 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,119 just get up, go to work, uh, do the best 556 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,479 job we could that day. It just was kind 557 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,639 of about like day in day out trying to 558 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,119 do your level best. Uh and then now 559 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,079 we're here now at the five years outside 560 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,678 of it. I'm starting to realize like 561 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:47,999 that's some cool So thank you all 562 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,029 for convincing me 563 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:55,759 that James and I were we were talking 564 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,359 about in Paris. Remember we were in 565 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,079 Paris and we were talking about when the 566 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,558 four of us sort of became a unit. was 567 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:06,959 around um thing that you know you pan 568 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,719 what he did he didn't want to do on his 569 00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:13,639 own so it was really and I suddenly realized 570 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,319 so it was really and I suddenly realized something unlike a lot of other shows 571 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,359 what we had that nobody else had is we 572 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:23,999 had Hall H Mhm. we had Hall H at a at a 573 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,879 very pivotal time in the show and we 574 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,639 would go to Hall H and we got to see our 575 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,479 audience which you never see in picture, 576 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,479 right? We were doing conventions. We 577 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,719 were doing we were with our audience 578 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,558 with the supernatural family and tight 579 00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:42,558 from those early days and it grew 580 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,038 together. And I don't think every other 581 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:47,038 show has that. Not at all. And I think 582 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:48,719 that was the major difference is that we 583 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,719 would go to Hall and you know Mish is 584 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,759 buying pizza for 6,000 people. But but 585 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,479 phenomenal things like like the candles 586 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,119 remember I mean I remember your face. I 587 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,798 remember your face when you were like, 588 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,519 "Oh shit." It was just like it didn't 589 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,199 make sense to me. No, but it it there's 590 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,439 a I think that was the phen I just 591 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,959 thought of that. I think it's literally 592 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,479 that's what the difference was is we 593 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,399 were with our audience very early. Yeah. 594 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,678 This this to this point I think like I 595 00:25:17,679 --> 00:25:19,918 realize we're on stage but I feel like 596 00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:21,839 I'm with y'all. I'm not like it's a 597 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,119 weird being a TV actor is um interesting 598 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,719 because we're in your homes you know 599 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,839 like if you're a movie star then someone 600 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,479 pays 10 bucks where it's like maybe 15 601 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,038 bucks now to go drive through theater 20 602 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,798 oh he's a little out of touch don't 603 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,639 those are pre-COVID prices again I only 604 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,278 watch I only watch Louisie do these 605 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:47,038 things and Canadian money that's like 20 606 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,158 bucks so like 3 cents 607 00:25:49,159 --> 00:25:54,789 American kidding kidding. 608 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:56,079 But I mean, you've been making that joke 609 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,639 since 1993. 610 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,079 If you're going to go watch like Denzel 611 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,158 Washington, you know, you you make a 612 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:04,079 plan to drive there on time, to pay for 613 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,519 parking, and to pay for this, and 614 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,278 everybody sits looking somewhere. I 615 00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,038 always felt, especially with the 616 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,678 Supernatural family, that it's like us. 617 00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:13,599 It's like same with AKF. I'm like, I 618 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,678 didn't. It's not me, it's us. Like, I'm 619 00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:18,319 I'm one I'm one spoke in the wheel, you 620 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,359 know? We're one spoke in the wheel. Um 621 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,599 so, uh just appreciate you guys and and 622 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,918 growing alongside y'all. Uh we would 623 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,999 never have had 15 seasons if it weren't 624 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,669 for y'all. So, thank you. 625 00:26:32,679 --> 00:26:36,199 So, questions that turned in 626 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,199 here a bit here. Um this one's for you 627 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,599 Jared. Sam's journey in Supernatural is 628 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,439 full of challenges from dealing with the 629 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,119 loss of loved ones to confronting his 630 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,278 own internal struggles. What was the 631 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:49,519 most emotionally challenging moment for 632 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,319 you while portraying Sam? 633 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,038 Uh, wow. What time is it? Jesus. 11:00 634 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:01,439 for you. We're coming. Um, I have I have 635 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,399 a gut feeling. Okay. It was It was all 636 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,399 the times that Sam and Dean were at 637 00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:13,199 odds. You know, I remember I remember like 638 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,079 You know, I remember I remember like Sacrifice season 8 when he comes in and 639 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,798 Sam is saying, "I I you know, thought 640 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,239 about letting you down." Like that kind 641 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,999 of stuff is hard. There was a scene, I 642 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,439 forget what I think it was like season 643 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,759 12, 13, and Sam is just laying into the 644 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,839 we're outside of like a insane asylum or 645 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,879 something by the Impala and I could not 646 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,879 remember my lines. I couldn't. And I 647 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,639 don't like I don't around, park my 648 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,038 French, but I like I know I usually know 649 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:41,119 everybody's lines by the time I film. 650 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,439 And for some reason, my brain just 651 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,239 wouldn't let me rip into it. And I I 652 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,918 went home. Who was directing? Tom 653 00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:49,759 Wright. Tom Wright. Yeah, Tom Wright was 654 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,199 directing. And I went home and cried 655 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,079 myself sleeping myself. Um and then I 656 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,918 had fans come up and people say like, 657 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:57,439 "Dude, that was my favorite scene. I've 658 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,999 seen it." But for me in the moment for 659 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,759 Jared, like I couldn't bring myself to 660 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,038 do it. Obviously, Carry On was really 661 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:10,070 freaking hard. Um 662 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,678 but yeah, thanks, man. This isn't 663 00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:14,558 helping. Yeah. Well, this is for my son, 664 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:18,319 so I told I told him I'd wear it, but it 665 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,439 is warm. Um, yeah. I think when Sam and 666 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,798 Dean were at odds, um, was really 667 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:33,350 difficult. Yeah. Well said. Nice noise. 668 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,038 Tyler was such a unique layered 669 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:36,719 character, constantly shifting between 670 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,519 antagonist and ally. What did you enjoy 671 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,359 most about playing him? And how did you 672 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,630 approach making him so unpredictable? 673 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,470 the question, right? 674 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,879 It's I think the actual answer is 675 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,479 there's a piece of crowley that goes, 676 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,879 "If these idiots would just do what I 677 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,918 told them to 678 00:29:00,919 --> 00:29:03,879 do, everything would be 679 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,199 fine." And yet underneath that, there 680 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,759 was a massive 681 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,879 dissatisfaction with getting his own 682 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,839 way. It was a massive dark thing. So the 683 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,359 It was a massive dark thing. So the demon deemed so massively disappointing 684 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,239 in its in its reality because okay, I 685 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,319 could do that. Now what? Now what? Now 686 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,239 what? Now what? Now what? Until we get 687 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,719 to a point of going, it's the most 688 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,199 boring show in the universe, which is 689 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,879 what Crowley's position was. I think 690 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,678 people mistook that as my me getting up 691 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:38,079 in the morning, but no, it was it 692 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,239 wasn't. It was this struggle of of like 693 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,678 arguing with Lucifer and going why am I arg I've 694 00:29:46,679 --> 00:29:49,439 arg I've done managing six billion people in a 695 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,119 line that look like a convention line. 696 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,319 It's the funniest thing I've ever seen 697 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,798 in my 698 00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:56,719 time. When Ben wrote that and we had 699 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,879 these all these extras in a line and it 700 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,999 was like now serving 6 billion412 and a 701 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,079 guy pulls a thing out and says you know 702 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,909 four 703 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:10,079 They all move one step forward. I 704 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,519 was like, he he he kind of wanted something, 705 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,759 like, he he he kind of wanted something, but he never knew what he wanted, right? 706 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,359 He just knew that wasn't it. And all he 707 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,119 really wanted was to be loved, and all 708 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,678 he really wanted was to be part of. And 709 00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:23,999 somebody asked me once, he goes, "Why 710 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,719 why do you think that um what's the name 711 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:34,278 of the stupid one in the co 712 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:38,239 co Steve? Why do why do they love Castile 713 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,999 and Crowley. And it's that Castile and 714 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,398 Crowley love the Winchester. The whole 715 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:46,558 point of Supernatural. All my all my 716 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:48,639 love to all the trials and spin-offs and 717 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,719 the things that everyone tried to do. We 718 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,398 watch Supernatural and I watch 719 00:30:52,399 --> 00:30:58,029 Supernatural because I care 720 00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:00,639 about incredibly stupid. Never learns 721 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,119 anything in what 77 seasons that he's 722 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,759 in. Still saying the same The guy 723 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,199 gets dumber every year. Um, which is a 724 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,398 brilliant foil. It is a brilliant foil. 725 00:31:11,399 --> 00:31:16,719 But he loves the boys and I, Crowley, 726 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,599 love the boys. And it's you guys living 727 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,319 vicariously through us loving the boys. 728 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,439 That makes Crowley and Castiel so 729 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,879 popular. I don't know why he's popular, 730 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:33,310 but cool. Yeah, it is a 731 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,558 cool for both of you. Supernatural is 732 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,239 known for its blend of horror, humor, 733 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,158 and drama. How did you find the balance 734 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:41,918 between the intense, emotional moments 735 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:43,839 and the comedic scenes, especially given 736 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,558 how heavy the show can get at times? 737 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,158 Yeah, watch the gag reels. 738 00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:53,959 Um, you know, I 739 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,959 think sci-fi is so wonderful because you 740 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,959 can do anything. You can explore 741 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,798 anything. Uh I've been a big fan of 742 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:02,558 horror and sci-fi and thrillers. My 743 00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:04,558 entire life my entire child. I love that 744 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:06,398 because you can explore things like on 745 00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:07,839 Gilmore Girls. You're not going to be 746 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,158 talking to Satan. 747 00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:11,429 I 748 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,389 [Music] mean 749 00:32:17,399 --> 00:32:23,430 they real OG. Um 750 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,319 um but we were able to explore these 751 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,158 real hey like you're soulless next 752 00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,239 season right like as an actor like what 753 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,319 a cool exercise you know it's like hey 754 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,678 you're going to climb Mount Everest and 755 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:35,359 then you're going to repel down like I 756 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,639 don't know how to do that I guess I'll 757 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,639 try it and so we were able to explore a 758 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,999 lot of things but there were there were 759 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,398 obviously I think most every episode 760 00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:45,038 something dies so it was pretty heavy 761 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,359 which is why I think infamously we have 762 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,359 such great outakes we had such a great 763 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,199 like you need like a pressure release 764 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,199 valve, you know, like the tea is 765 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,678 steeping. Make sure the thing is open so 766 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:57,439 the steam can kind come out when it 767 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,398 needs to. Um, and so I think we've let 768 00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:02,239 that in. And again, what I was saying 769 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,918 earlier about writers, they were able to 770 00:33:04,919 --> 00:33:09,119 see Jensen who has phenomenal comedic 771 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,959 title. Uh, he's great actor, big guy, 772 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,879 um, but he has amazing comedic prowess. 773 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,239 And so playing the mean of like who I 774 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,909 am. I'm 775 00:33:22,919 --> 00:33:25,199 bow-legged jumping into my arms cuz he's 776 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,518 scared of a 777 00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:29,918 cat. Like the juosition, the dichotomy 778 00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:32,639 of these characters and Sam who's who's 779 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,918 very kind of intellectual 780 00:33:34,919 --> 00:33:38,158 um studious uh kind of being part of the 781 00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:39,678 source of like Bad Black Rock or 782 00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:42,558 something, right? Um was just a great 783 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:44,798 it's it's it's the just position, you 784 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,239 know, it's like look over here and here 785 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:54,430 this um and so for those 786 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,879 providers. You just let something slip 787 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,398 that the whole room just kind of gassed 788 00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:02,479 about. Um, and so I I got you. And so 789 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,079 I'm going to kind of parlay this into 790 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,918 kind of a not spoiler because we don't 791 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,719 do that around here. But is you don't 792 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,479 want to know the score. Don't go down to 793 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,959 the pub. 794 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,358 I like that. I like that. I like that. 795 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:17,999 Um, I'll do an American Indian. Cover 796 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,719 your ears. 797 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:22,799 Friends, runs Canadians, cover your 798 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,398 ears. Uh, would you say that uh this this 799 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:29,759 Uh, would you say that uh this this appearance that is on the upcoming 800 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,838 season of The Boys is officially 801 00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:35,738 unofficially Supernatural season 16? 802 00:34:35,739 --> 00:34:39,990 [Applause] 803 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,598 You say you're not in it, but we haven't 804 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,999 seen it yet. I refuse to believe until 805 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,439 until it's over. It's not over there. Uh 806 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,398 I I am afraid that Jeff Bezos will come 807 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:51,759 repelling down. I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. 808 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,479 No. No spoilers because he owns Amazon. 809 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,838 No spoilers. Um but no, it's not. Uh 810 00:34:57,839 --> 00:34:59,838 it's going to be great. We I don't know 811 00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:01,838 exactly what's going on yet. It's 812 00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:03,999 terrifying. It could those who have seen 813 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,919 The Boys uh you don't know what you're 814 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,799 doing yet. Yeah. Good for you. 815 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,118 Um, we've all seen Rob's scenes and you 816 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,078 know, so I've even before you know the 817 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:17,279 contract was signed, I was like, "Hey, 818 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,559 mom, I'm going to be doing something. 819 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,559 Don't watch it. 820 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,319 I don't know what it is. I love I miss 821 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,838 you, but like don't watch it. Don't 822 00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:25,759 watch it. I'm going to go like into her 823 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,879 iPad and delete Amazon 824 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,879 Prime. Can't watch it. Lock her." Um, 825 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,199 heard you say that. 826 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,879 You're going to do what? I'm going be 827 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,838 like, "Sappear." Um, no. We're gonna go 828 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:40,479 have fun. Good. It's been announced that 829 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,509 Jensen and I are all going to be sharing 830 00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:47,870 [Music] 831 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,039 screen. Question. I still I I still 832 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,559 deeply want to and believe that we will 833 00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:00,510 do uh another 834 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,670 supernatural really wonderful. 835 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,039 I think we have volunteers. I think we 836 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,039 do. I think we have some folks here. Um 837 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,118 guys, I have to say thank you so very 838 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:12,559 much. Not just for your time here on 839 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,679 this stage, but for the 840 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,199 characterizations, the stories that you 841 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,279 all have brought to life because I think 842 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,159 it speaks to everyone in some capacity 843 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,239 in its truth and authenticity. And 844 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,759 there's something about all of you that 845 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,519 we do feel that passion for that I think 846 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,479 is genuine and deserved. So, thank you 847 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:35,390 so so very much. 848 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,720 Guys, all the

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