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She's like the most lovable person on

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the planet.

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But not the most lovable character. Or

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is she?

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Right? I mean she is but she isn't.

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I mean she is but she isn't.
I played a character like that.

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Um it's Soldier Boy, yeah.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Not the best person on the planet.

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But yet oddly I

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can root for him a bit.

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I don't know if Yeah, I I mean I do in

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my like my fan heart.

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Uh and I kind of feel like there's there

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are people out there that that also

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oddly root for him.

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And I don't know what that says about

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us. Cuz he's not the best person.

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Cuz he's not the best person.
UM

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HOW WE DOING? >> [cheering]

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>> [cheering]
>> WE'RE GOOD?

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SHOULD I TAKE SOME QUESTIONS OR SHOULD I

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OPEN with a story?

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>> [cheering]

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>> Sounds good. Here we go. So.

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I flew here uh from

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uh New York

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uh

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yesterday morning. I got in.

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Which would mean that I took off

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Thursday night.

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So

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um

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flight was at

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7 something 7:30 something like that.

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And uh p.m. uh p.m.
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you get to the airport.

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Um this is JFK.

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And the plane that is coming in

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from wherever has been delayed and

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that's the plane that we needed to take.

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Rome. So it's been delayed it's been delayed

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So it's been delayed it's been delayed
and we're like uh okay. All right, well

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fine. And then it apparently gets

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delayed even more. So I don't know what

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was happening. Like

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I'm like did it go down?

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It did not. For whatever reason

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tailwinds or headwinds was delayed yeah

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halfway through.

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So

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uh

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Luckily we're in New York and they've

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got spare planes hanging out in the

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hangers.

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So they dust off some old battle horse

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>> [laughter]

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>> that's just been sitting in the hanger

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probably since the '80s.

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And they're like that'll do. Put him in

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the game.

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And so they get us this new plane and I

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get on the plane and I'm like

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are these ashtrays? >> [laughter]

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>> Oh, okay. And I I immediately I like I

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called the email and I'm like

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hey look

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you might want to say a prayer

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>> [laughter]

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>> cuz I don't know what's going to happen

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with this plane. Uh

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and um

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and a friend of mine actually who is not

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part of this he he he just happened to

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be flying to Rome uh

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at the same time that I was and I was

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like oh my gosh what's up dude?

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And so he and I were looking at each

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other like

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>> [laughter]

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>> Um

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so anyway so we we we we taxi out and

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you know put this put this the old

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seatbelt on and there was dust on it. Uh

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and I'm like this is uh when was the

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last time this was serviced? I don't

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even know. It's like one of those

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thoughts. And I'm like and we're about

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to go over an ocean for a long time.

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This is an 8-hour flight.

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And I was like

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that's fine.

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Um

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so we get going down the runway.

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And we take off. I'm like all right

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it's promising.

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Engines work.

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And just when I think something wrong

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with the plane is is going to happen

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no

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my abdominal muscle

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decides to cramp so hard

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Do you guys ever have this? When you're

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when you're at like just one single ab

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and it just goes hit.

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And normally you would like stand up and

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like like do one of these and like kind

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of stretch it out.

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I can't stand up. We're literally we've

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just left the ground. I'm in a seatbelt

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from the '80s and I I can't I can't

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stand up. So now I'm in my chair going >> [laughter]

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>> And I'm I'm taking my hand I'm like no

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no

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no. And I'm

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And I'm
I'm trying to breathe I'm like breathing

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exercises I'm like

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and I'm like trying to arch my back and

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like trying to stretch it out.

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And then

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and then my back starts cramping I'm

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>> [laughter]

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>> Who is

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I like I was it was there was so much

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pain in my in my core at this point that

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I was like I started to like laugh cry.

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And I was like

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My poor neighbors

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probably just thought I was a bad flyer.

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They're like well that Jensen Ackles is

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not a good flyer.

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We took off and he lost his [\h__\h]

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>> [laughter]

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>> This lasted for minutes.

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Minutes. And it's like it's one thing it's like

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And it's like it's one thing it's like
oh that was like a 15-second thing. This

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was for minutes and I I had to balance

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between the the back cramp and the ab

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cramp. And there was and I had just

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flown from LA the day before. So I

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I was working in LA

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5 days ago.

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Uh on something that I can't tell you

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guys about but I will at some point.

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So I was in LA on Monday Tuesday and

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Wednesday I came home and I was I had

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been gone cuz I was also

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in Vancouver working on and I think you

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guys know Tracker. And

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so I've been there for a bit working on

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that and then I had to go to LA to do

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this other thing for a couple days and

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then came home was basically like dumped

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my suitcases out

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and then refilled it with anything that

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was fresh.

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Uh

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and so it was probably like a

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dehydration of flying and traveling and

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all of the above.

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But that was the worst takeoff that I've

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ever had and I

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and I feel so bad for the people around

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me who were probably concerned at this

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point cuz you couldn't stand up. We were

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in our descent and I couldn't get out of

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the chair cuz that would have created a

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problem but I was just like

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you're just going to have to sit in

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this. You're going to have you your ab is

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You're going to have you your ab is
cramping your back is cramping now and I

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I literally was just like

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and that does nothing. Nothing. Nothing.
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it was awful. It was awful.

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Uh

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getting older is so fun.

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>> [laughter]

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>> It's so great.

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I and I just remember going like

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this is this is ridiculous.

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And I'm going to tell everyone in Rome

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about it. >> [applause]

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>> I hope I hope no one no one in

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around me took a picture cuz it it's

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going to look like I'm I'm possessed.

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I'm possessed and someone is performing

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an exorcism on me.

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Cuz that's what it felt like.

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And it was terrible. Um

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it was terrible. Um
anyway

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I made it. I'm here.

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AND UH

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>> [cheering and applause]

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>> AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CRAMP TODAY. SO

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SO
BUT THERE'S STILL TIME.

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Uh [laughter]

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all right let's get to some questions.

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We'll start over here.

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Hi. Hi. I still have a really cold

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little voice so I won't to ask.

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After so many years of conventions and

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meeting fans what kind of interactions

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do you really touch you or stay in your

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heart? Um

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Um
all of them.

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And I don't I'm not just saying that. I

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mean that.

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Sure there are ones that stand out.

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When um

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when you have like a multi-generational

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uh uh show up at at the autograph table

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and it's like this is

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this is my daughter and this is my

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mother and we all watch the show or

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whatever it is. But also stories about

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how the show um

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gave gave uh gave you strength or gave

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you uh inspiration to deal with something

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uh inspiration to deal with something
that was happening personally. Um

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all there's so I've heard so many am-

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amazing things. And it's one of the

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reasons why like like I do and a lot of

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us

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still enjoy these things is because

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we get we get feedback from the people

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that this has that what we do has hit

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has has struck a nerve with them and um

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and so we we

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we don't get that on a set.

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You know, you might get that if you're

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in the theater

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and you've got an audience in front of

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you and you perform and then you get

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that kind of like energetic feedback,

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but we don't you don't get that on set.

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And so when we get to come here and we

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get to hear the stories of how what we

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have done has affected them in any

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capacity. Um

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Um
that still is really inspiring to me uh

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and I I know to a lot of the guys in

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Dallas that that do what we do.

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And so I've had a lot of actors um that

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I've worked with recently who don't do

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these things.

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And have asked me

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you know,

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uh intense questions of like

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like I'm really interested in in like I

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want to go and and do that. I was like

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okay, uh well, I I can help you. Uh

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uh well, I I can help you. Uh
>> [laughter]

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>> but

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uh

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because because they they have heard

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about things like this.

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things like this.
And they've heard about the um

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the the the commonality between the love

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of what is of what has been created. Not

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just the people that were involved in

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creating it, but the people that were

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involved in supporting it.

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And and that I think means the world uh

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to to us and to the people that get to

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make it to be able to share with you and

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then also hear how it affected you or

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how it resonates or

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how it it struck a chord or how it was

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uh tethered to a time in your life when

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you needed it the most.

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So anytime I get to hear those stories,

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that really that really inspires me and

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that really means a lot to me. So,

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Thank you. Thank you. >> [applause]

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>> Hi Jensen.

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My name's Nika and it's my first con.

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Welcome. I've been dreaming about it since I was

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I've been dreaming about it since I was
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uh 40.

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Almost 30.

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It was like you were like dreaming about

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it since you were 14 and you said 40 and

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I was like, no.

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Um we've got some bad math.

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I'm nervous, sorry. It's okay.

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Um well, hey, welcome. Uh Thank you. and

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uh I hope you're having a good time.

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Yeah, yeah. I'm thrilled. It's a fun

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place to be. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

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Uh and first of all, I want to thank you

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for still do for still doing this.

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Um

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it's amazing.

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So, I watched a lot of videos and uh

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from different cons and I really enjoy

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hearing some funny stories with you and

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your friends. So, I'm curious if there

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been any funny, awkward or funny stories

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have have that have happened to you

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recently with fans.

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Violent stories?

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>> [laughter]

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>> Funny.

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Funny stories?

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With fans.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Um >> [laughter]

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>> No, I don't have any violent stories.

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Uh

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any funny stories? Um

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Gosh, I you know I I'm

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I I'm
I'm in kind of a

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a unique

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I don't know.

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I don't want to say ranking, but

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as far as like celebrity goes.

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Um

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I can be recognizable, but also I can

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walk around with a little anonymity.

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And um

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so that gives me freedom to to

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you know,

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try and live you know, try to walk

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around normally. Um

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but understand that that there could be

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interactions. Um as opposed to somebody that is, you

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Um as opposed to somebody that is, you
know, a massive movie star and they walk

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around and everyone you know, on the

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street knows who they are. It's like

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that's then they've got to take

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precautions. I can walk around a little

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bit without precaution mostly. And

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but it does lend itself to having some

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interactions. Um

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Um
just yesterday I forgot I didn't to

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town. Um

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Um
I I I wanted to go uh visit a place and

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and Daniella was was with was with me

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and she was like

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okay, well, let's let's we can walk

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there and I was like, great.

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So, we walked there

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and as we were walking through the lots of

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as we were walking through the lots of
crowds. I don't know if you guys have

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been in the city, but it is very crowded

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this weekend.

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Um

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I guess the holiday weekend

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uh so

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very very very packed with uh with

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visitors and tourists and and

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everything. So,

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so I was just you know, kind of head

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down and you know, glasses on and

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walking through, but also, you know,

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looking around and admiring Rome because

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I love this town and I love being there

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and seeing the sights.

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seeing the sights.
And I guess um

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this young woman walked past

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and in Italian just goes

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looked at me, but didn't recognize me

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and just goes, oh, [\h__\h] HE'S HANDSOME. >> [cheering] [applause]

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>> NOW, I DIDN'T understand it because she

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said it in Italian.

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And I don't know how to say that in

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Italian. So, I didn't understand it when she said

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So, I didn't understand it when she said
it.

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But Daniella just started laughing.

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>> [laughter]

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>> And I don't know, what what?

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And she goes, that woman, what she just

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said. And I'm like, what who?

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And then she told me. So, uh I don't

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know, that was yesterday afternoon.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Uh that was that was funny

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to me.

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And she was but Daniella was saying like

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the way that it was phrased in in in

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Italian was was like very like

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it was LIKE A SHOCK.

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>> [laughter]

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>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

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Um but uh

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but I'll tell you what, after coming off

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a flight and and

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doing this >> [laughter]

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>> that made me feel good. >> [applause]

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>> Thank you. Uh Uh
Hi. Hi.

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>> we were we're house lights up. Looks

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like we're good.

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Yeah, good, great.

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Faces, all right. Hi.

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Hi. Uh my question is about Supernatural.

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Uh my question is about Supernatural.
Do you have some ideas or storylines

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uh that haven't been used during 15

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seasons of the Supernatural and that can

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be used um

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in the season 16?

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There were always ideas floating around.

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I mean

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Spade and I came up with a whole episode

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idea one time and and but we we never

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pitched it because

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you have to understand like there's a

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team of writers sitting in a room and

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they are they're that is their entire

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job to come up and create stories

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and to to

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to put those stories on the board and

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then pick them apart

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try to find ways of making them better.

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They spend days and day hours and hours

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and hours and days and days doing all

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this. And so

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And so
me and

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Spade coming up to them being like, hey,

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you know what would be funny?

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And expecting that to happen

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uh we weren't quite

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we weren't quite there yet. Like

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Supernatural was still a a show that

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was just we were just trying.

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We're trying to do our best.

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And so we weren't in the position of

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being like

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hey, let's try you know, like for the

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actors be like, hey, let's try this.

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What if I did this? I mean, we would do

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that on set as a way of just like

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uh

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embellishing what was written.

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But the the writers and and the

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showrunners that we had on the show

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um

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I I guess I understood how hard they

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worked to to create what they created.

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And so I never wanted to come in and be

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like, I can do that.

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Um

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cuz I don't think I I don't think I

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could. And and in fact, I know I can't.

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Uh I could maybe have ideas about

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performances, ideas about chemistry or

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maybe a little idea about a storyline,

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but when it comes to conceptualizing

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things on that at that degree, like

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that's why they get paid what they do to

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do what they do.

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So, there are ideas or stories that

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that we've had, you know, that I've had,

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Jared's had and and

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Spade and Rob and Misha and

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a lot of us have had. About you know

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what would be cool?

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Um

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but the writers have had 17 times that many

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the writers have had 17 times that many
ideas that have been like, you know what

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would be cool? And all of those get in

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the trash can. And then it's like the

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one that rises to the top is actually

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the one that gets made. So,

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um

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you know, it's the same thing. I was

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just My friend that was on the plane with me

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My friend that was on the plane with me
yesterday

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is

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the lead singer of a band.

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And he's writing right now and

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and he was telling me he was like, you

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know, got

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you know, writing songs. It was like I

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was like, oh, wow.

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I was like, that seems like a lot of

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songs. I was like, are you are you doing

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like a double album? And he's like, no,

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you know the deal.

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If you need 12 songs for an album, you

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got to write 24.

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And it is true.

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And that's and I forget I I immediately

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forgot. I was like, oh, of course.

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That's Yeah, Steve and I

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when we were doing Radio Company, we

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wrote we wrote probably at least eight to 10

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we wrote probably at least eight to 10
more songs than what was ended up on the

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album. Um

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Um
and that's because you you have to you

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have to get

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you have to cherry-pick

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the ones that make the most sense.

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So, are there ideas? Yes.

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But I can't remember them.

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>> [laughter]

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>> That was a long way of saying, no, I

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don't have any ideas.

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But also giving the writers credit that

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they that they do a good job.